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BPA Meeting Minutes - 2008-07-29
Tuesday, 29 July 2008

Bundeena Progress Association

Meeting Minutes - July 29th 2008


  • 42-44 Brighton St. Development

Attendance as per attendance book  9 Persons


Zel Jandric


Moved that the minutes of the meeting held on the 24 June 2008 be adopted.
Alan Petersen, John Gawthorn

Business Arising

Treasurers Report

Moved that the treasurer's report be accepted.
Alan Petersen, Rosemary Zunc

Correspondence Inwards

Moved that inwards correspondence be accepted.
Ray Solness, Tom Ledden

Correspondence Outwards

Moved that outward correspondence be endorsed
Rosemary Zunc, Moya Turner

Committee Reports


General Business

Alan Petersen spoke about the impact that the deer are having on the national park. He read from reports which detailed the effects of the deer on the environment. Alan will write a letter of support for the council's deer culling programme.

Helen Vogt gave a brief summary of the Port Hacking Management Plan. It was agreed that members should write individual responses to the council.

Proposed changes to the Royal National Park Management Plan for Bonnie Vale were tabled. The main change was the inclusion of a low key boat ramp where the existing access is. The progress association at a public meeting supported the provision of a ramp at this location some time ago. Members present endorsed that support.

Proposed Development at 42-44 Brighton St

The above property is the subject of an 82A review for amended plans. Council staff recommended refusal for the original plan as, in particular, it did not meet parking requirements. It relied on tandem parking for two spaces and the use of the driveway of the adjacent property (same owner). The parking arrangements were difficult to use and this association argued strongly against the plan. Some of the reasons were that vehicles backed across a pedestrian walkway, two of the spaces were virtually unusable, tandem parking is undesirable and manoeuvring was so difficult that patrons would be more likely to park in the street.

The plan was amended to now include an easement over the adjacent property to allow some cars to back across the driveway (and pedestrian walkway) in order to be able to turn sufficiently to exit the property. Two car stackers were introduced to comply with the number of spaces required. The association objected to the amened plans for similar reasons to the first objection.

Members present were surprised (some said appalled) that council staff recommended approval for the amended application.

A member raised the issue of sustainability. Why would council support car stackers for parking when we are being urged to reduce our consumption of energy and CO2 emissions?

The plan was submitted to IHAP for consideration. In the IHAP report the Panel was concerned about visibility between pedestrians and drivers where the pedestrians walking down the pathway may not be seen by a reversing vehicle.

Further, "From examination of the plans the Panel felt that for the internal parking and stacked parking arrangements operation of the parking in the proposed configuration is likely to be excessively tight, and that further consideration should be given to a better layout and design of the parking so as to allow better vehicle flow in and out of the parking spaces."

The proposed plan already has

  • Tandem parking
  • Driveway on the adjacent property
  • Crosses a pedestrian walkway
  • Easement over the adjacent property to permit a car to exit
  • Car stackers
  • And it is still excessively tight.

IHAP recommended better layout and design. But how? There is nowhere to go.

The Association maintains that workable parking cannot be achieved with the current plan and that a major revision is needed.

Moved that we write to council and all councillors to explain our position, questioning the staff recommendation and supporting the IHAP conclusion
Alan Petersen, Ray Solness.

Wharf Upgrade

Helen tabled a brochure about the wharf upgrade. There was a doubt that if the work was not started immediately then it would run into the Christmas holidays. It may already be too late. Moved that the secretary write to Gwyn Cleeve about the timetable for the works and copy to Paul McLeay.
Helen Vogt, John Gawthorn

Moya Turner gave a report on the meeting at Sutherland Police Station which was called to discuss issues relating to the road through the Royal National Park. It was a preliminary meeting which will be followed by more detailed meetings involving smaller groups. The main subject is safety issues on the road and in particular those accidents involving motor cycles. Upgrading the road was seen as a major objective.

It was moved and agreed that extra time be allowed.

It was moved that we write to council re the status of the proposed boardwalk on the western side of Brighton St.
John Gawthorn, Rosemary Zunc.

Helen spoke on a list of matters:

  • Growth on the side of Bundeena Drive, particularly Morgans Hill - it is becoming difficult for the bus
  • Levelling of land south of Bowling Club
  • Report on Bundeena Chamber of Commerce meeting
  • People stranded when ferry is not running
  • To write to Paul McLeay about provision of a bus service when the ferry can't run due to rough weather

Meeting closed at 9.30 PM

@Bundeena Community Centre

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